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Old August 30th, 2007, 12:01 PM

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Default Re: Rangefinder values how are they determined?

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chuckfourth said:
One further point would be that the Nashorn (with a range finder value of 8) appears to have the Scherenfernrohr 14 as it "rangefinder" see the last picture in
http://www.ipmsdeutschland.de/Milita..._Hornisse.html
So two points here, maybe all the other vehicles with Scherenfernrohr 14s should also get rangefinder 8?
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in-game the German 88mm AA gun also has a Rangefinder value of 8 though (as with all german AA) it comes with a 'real' standard 1m rangefinder. Note this rangefinder (I think the "EM 1m R 36") has a magnification of only 8x compared the the Scherenfernrohr 14's, 14x. Now either the Nashorn Rangefinder value is wrong or the Scherenfernrohr 14 can give a range just as good as the 1m rangefinder. Looking at Nashorn's "legendary" accuracy I would go for the latter.
Also the main advantage of using a rangefinder seems to be not hitting moving targets but extending range. This is why the 88 was so deadly in the desert and the 88 and Nashorn on the Russian steppe, It could hit a target accurately at a range where none of the oppositions direct fire weapons had any hope of hitting them. This seems to be because of the rangefinder/Scherenfernrohr 14.
Perhaps designers thought Nashorn also had a "real" stereoscopic rangefinder available? They were sometimes carried in Tigers as well (not standard!)

As for the Scherenfernrohr, everybody had it. It is just pretty binoculars.

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As far as the "too high" rangefinder values for shermans see
http://www.fprado.com/armorsite/Zeiss_Optics.htm

"The americans had poor optics and could NOT measure the range through them. All shots beyond 800 meters were lucky guesses on their part."

and before you tell me this guy is rubbish, check another of his pages,
It is rubbish. Just because he can copy data from some books does not make him clever.

The Sherman sight had no fancy triangles, but it had lines in reticle which were 5 mils wide and separated by 5 mils space. Not really any different.
Sherman gunner had much better vision to find target, Tiger gunner only had narrow view in his telescope. So Sherman also had advantages.

But Chuck, you know so much about how game should be, so why not make you own game?

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