[Gandalf Parker]

I never said it should be secret. I dont think I have ever done a secret alliance nor would I ever advocate one. But then I have been called "incurably paladin" (both virtually and in real life). Mentioning a pantheon would tend to say that I was talking about open public agreement.

Personally as far as "should agree this can exist" seems backward to me. They CAN exist (victory conditions excluding of course) therefor I would treat them as possible unless its stated that they CANNOT exist in the game. Not sure how that would be enforced but I personally would always comply with such a game setting. I would recommend that people hosting a game might want to keep this in mind since I personally tend to consider any agreement (even NAPs) to be game long unless specifically broken.

I only posted this because I see posts about how a nation (in this case a modded nation) seems to serve no purpose because it would never stand up against certain other nations. Ive seen it about some of the vanilla nations in the game also. That is a limiting view of the worth of nations and "how the game is played" IMHO

Gandalf Parker