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				Velusion said: 
 
This is an option if it is a land nation. In practice I don't see very many land nations attacking fortified turtled sea nations unless they have no other targets. 
 
 
			
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 I do see an impressive number of EA wins by R'lyeh in the Victorious Nations thread, and I thought they were perceived as a generally weak position.  Clamming could explain that, perhaps, but then any clam nerf would seem to disproportionately hit EA R'lyeh, if that's their main strength.  
I don't see disproportionate wins by the other aquatic races listed in that thread.