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Edratman said:
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I'm with Folket, Civ 4 is an excellent game. The best in the series, certainly.
Any beefs you have with that game specifially are more due to the genre than anything else. The gameplay has gotten to be so polished and streamlined that I don't understand where the gripes are coming from.
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I am not saying Civ 4 is a bad game. But look at it from my perspective. I'm a few weeks short of 56, so I played all the Civ games the day they were released and when they were state of the art. I am still a major Civ fan. Civ 1 broke new ground in the gaming world. The others 3 were the same game with improvements, many in gameplay, but mostly in graphics.
Dom 3 is Civ 1 with an increase of complexity by several magnitudes. Civ 2, 3 and 4 are Civ 1 with an increase of complexity of several multiples. Therein lies the difference.
By saying I like Dom 3 more than Civ 4 I am not downgrading the Civ 4.
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I pretty much agree with everything here. Civ4 is a wonderful, polished, fairly deep 4x turn based game. It's glaring problems are it's lack of originality (it doesn't really change much from its originals) and it's horrible MP play.
I played civ4 for awhile and admired it but I tired of it quickly because I felt as if I'd already played "that game" to death.
Of course - you could say the same thing about Dom3 just being an updated Dom2, but then I never really played Dom2 so the whole game feels fresher to me.