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PanzerBob said:
Whew, what a read. I for one don't think the OOB's are "out of whack". I've changed the odd thing for example increasing the HE kills points for the MG42 a couple points. However, besides Equipment and Units I have created myself, I have found little need for change.
As DRG has repeated and with great patience I might add, a lot of problems seem to arise based on how the player perceives the scale and how the players own tactical abilities are honed.
Many factors go into one shot from an SMG for example:
-Is it the Sqds primary weapon, or secondary (which means one SMG).
-Location of shooter(s) open, trees, dug in, moving, Buildings etc.
-Location of target, as mentioned plus elevation, same hex, etc.
-Type of troops.
-Leadership.
-Morale
-Experience.
-Any suppression.
Plus others I didn’t think of I’m sure
I wonder sometimes how many people who play this game, have played board games. The great ones could take some time to figure out all the factors involved in one shot, ever before the die were cast. Small campaign games could take months to play, and forget about fighting one battle in an evening. Saving the game meant putting it under lock and key so the kids, pets or even your spouse didn’t knock the board or worst yet dump it on the floor. Not to mention trying to find someone to game with and had a room they could shut off from the world for months or years.
This to me has always been the ultimate beauty of this game since it’s DOS days in 1994 IIRC. Since those days I’m sure thousands of upgrades and changes have taken place. At first by the paid devotees, then by many named and I’m sure nameless people for the love of the game. And yet we can still change hundreds if not thousands of things ourselves if we choose.
Steel Panthers Rules, I love the Game, and hey if something bugs you, YOU CAN change it, sometimes it takes time, but trust me it’s worth it.
Hope I didn’t go ranty.
Prosit, Panzer Bob
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Well I did the full removal, re-install and patch and I STILL think some weapons abilities are out of whack, along with the Preferences adjustment. And I'm grateful that I can edit the OOB to get them closer to what I think they should be.
As to my background, I am an old geezer (age 58) that started out on Avalon Hill WW2 board games back in the 60s. When Steel Panthers came out for computers, I was in 7th heaven. Gobbled it up along with Steel Panthers Modern Battles and the third version with Brigade-sized units (which I wasn't too crazy about). After that I grabbed the Talonsoft East Front and West Front comp games. I wish those dang things would run on WinXP, but everything I tried, which was about EVERYTHING you could do short of re-installing Win98 with a dual boot system, didn't work.
I bought Steel Panthers: World at War a few years ago, and other than the occasional crash to desktop and graphics driver issues, was an EXCELLENT sim. Most all of the problems have been corrected on it now. WinSPWW2 and WinSPMBT I recently purchased. Of the two, I prefer the modern battles. Just seems to have fewer "issues" with them as far as OOB is concerned. I will adjust the OOB of WinSPWW2 and over time get it to the way I like it. No problemo. Not sure what to do about the Preferences thing.
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