[FrozenFalcon]

We have now 12 players. Now, Zeldor seems to absolutely want to play WoG. Llamabeast, have you played the map, and can you absolutely say that it really takes months to finish, or is your estimation based on purely the province count? Because WoG does have that Victory Province.

I think that even "unbalanced" map works, there's always luck included in the game, like Llamabeast said, this is not chess. And because being in a good position gives you advantage, it also gives you diplomatical disadvantage if players find this out, because advantage makes threat and being threatening can be disadvantage.

Zeldor, if we choose Cradle of Dominion, can you play it, or are you absolutely against it? We have 12 players now, so when we get the map decided we can set a deadline for Pretenders and start playing. Of course, we need to set teams.