[Edratman]

It has been months since I finished a game. I stopped playing large maps because of that, and still don't finish games on 175-200 province maps. I started using VP's and only finished one of them. I now accept the fact that I will not finish games and consider that a component in my definition of the game itself.

For me the problem is turn length. When I find myself spending 30 to 60 minutes doing a turn, and only completing 2 or 3 turns through two nightly sessions, I quit the game. I save it, let it sit under saved games for a couple of months, never go back to any of the accumulated saved games, and then one night I erase all saved games and start the process anew.

In my opinion, the turn length at 40+ provinces is the only shortcoming of the game. Solutions to that are complex and probably not achievable within the framework of the game.