[ColdSteel]

I just found another one. it's called OpenFX and it's an open source project with binary distribution files for a variety of operating systems.

Haven't had a chance to play with it yet but it looks very promising based on the information at their site (openfx.org). The good news is that it includes a renderer as well as modeling tools. I like open source projects like this a lot so I'll try it out and post my experience with it here.

On gmax, I knew about the gamepacks but thought that was stupid since they only have one pack available which is for quake 3 and if I want to develop more maps for quake 3 I'm going to be using QERadiant like I always do, not the tempest pack. The only thing it makes sense for is weapon and character models. Now that I can see as very useful.

CS