To interact, to understand, to blather on!
NT Jedi posted:
“It's not an opinion... you are changing decided future results for the benefit of winning. Providing yourself an unfair advantage during the game against any opponents human or computer AI is cheating.” (end NT Jedi post)
Yes it is your opinion. You’ve simply restated it. If I saved/replayed a turn I’d be changing the path of the game(as I’ve stated I don’t do this in Dom3 but I will freely admit I do it in many games with the savegame option.) I am providing myself with an advantage during the game in this case only against the AI. I don’t consider it “unfair” or “cheating” because I’m not playing a being. The game has no set of rules. The game only has code. Dom3 allows Mods and I use them as I wish. I use them according to the game’s code. The game’s code is the nearest thing it has to rules and I follow it.
On your generalization to whether I think it is impossible to cheat a singleplayer game, I’d prefer to see the specific game. As I’ve already said I use some game’s ‘cheat codes’ I could debate whether I really thought it was cheating but I am willing to accept some game author’s characterization of them as ‘cheats’.
Your speculation on my playing darts ignores that it is a parlor/pub game with well known rules and I would not be playing “according to the rules” which is a definition of fair. Therefore I would be not be playing fair. But as I’ve stated I play Dom3 by the code while Dom3 doesn’t have rules. So I am playing by the code which is literal computer (instruction) rules(?) in Dom3 and therefore I think I am playing fair not unfair.
NT Jedi posted:
“I see another point you are missing... when someone is cheating whether it's against other human players or against AI opponents they are not only being UNFAIR to their opponents but they are also lying to themselves on the actual skills of their gameplay. Unfortunately many of these individuals continue to cheat because they cannot face losing.”
(Restated “facing a loss” later): “Unfortunately the save/reload you use during games is to provide you the constant victory or more importantly the way to avoid facing a loss.”
(Restated “UNFAIR”): “provides you a PERMANENT CONTINOUS UNFAIR ADVANTAGE.”
(Restated “unfair”): “Yes, mods are a great tool... like any other tool they can be used to provide an unfair advantage if used incorrectly. “(end NT Jedi posts)
As I just explained above from a definition of FAIR from the dictionary I think I am playing fairly. I play by the game’s code which is the closest thing that the game has to ‘rules’. A definition of FAIR is ‘according to the rules.’ So I provide myself with a permanent/continuous advantage, but I don’t consider it ‘unfair’.
I also am quite aware that I am taking additional strengthening measures to make it easier for me to learn a game I am fairly new at and I’ve admitted here so I’m neither “lying to” myself or deceiving others on this board. I have no problem losing except that I don’t want to waste my time at learning the game. I have at no time denied that in other games that I did reload that I didn’t lose either a battle or that I was unfortunately effected some random event. The event happened – it existed. I simply choose (in some other game) where I do save and reload to replay those turns or event having learned from the experience how to do it better if possible or in the case of random events I’ve eliminated the random bad result. I’m not denying any of this, if I was we wouldn’t be having this discussion. (IF I was denying losing a battle, game, or replaying some negative random event, I’d simply have ignored your posts and never entered this entertaining discussion.)
NT Jedi said:
“why don't you try my suggestion. For your next 10 games of each PC_game use the save/reload to change the future anytime you win a major battle. This way you can find the best strategy for making a recovery after major losses and/or important commanders/mages. I'm sure you've spent the last 25 years finding the fastest winning strategy... so it's time you find the best way to recover after major losses.”
(Restated in
“If you were so true to the save/reload option for the purpose of strategic reasons then you would have been using the save/reload for the opposite method of improving your strategy after major losses.” (end NT Jedi quotes)
I’ve repeatedly freely admitted I Mod to increase my position: “I simply prefer to have the AI play consistently and increase my starting strength to decrease the learning curve and enjoy the learning process.” And I elaborated that many game companies allow setting adjustment: “Games are created with AI difficulty settings precisely to allow players to choose how hard a learning curve they experience.” Illwinter does this in Dom3’s settings. So your suggestion that I increase my difficulty by intentionally losing battles ignores part of my stated goals: to decrease my learning curve. But in fact in a few games I’ve quite thoroughly learned I do restart battles to see how few troops I can win with. But this is rare and I’m usually getting quite bored with the game because I so thoroughly understand its mechanics. I tend to prefer to buy a new game and learn fresh experiences rather than waste my time on almost trivial refinement. Again as I have stated I play to explore a game: in MMORPGs it is my primary Bartle’s type. I’m an “explorer” not an “achiever” or a “killer”(I think this is a negative term Bartle’s uses for PvPers.) (I my second strongest Bartle’s type is to “socialize” because I enjoy folks and exploring/learning with them.)
NT Jedi posted:
“Mods actually aren't needed even for the worst players. Simply play a very large map requiring 40% of the victory points, choose land nations for AI opponents(not ERMOR, Atlantis or Argatha), human plays a water nation, map has 40% water with no lakes and set AI difficulty on easy. No mods needed and a very easy game for the human player.”
Actually this would be quite boring because it extremely limits my interaction with the AI opponents. I’m too weak on land and they are too weak in the sea. You have repeatedly indication directly or indirectly that I somehow am pursuing an easy victory and avoiding a loss. That’s why I’ve defined the other Bartle’s types: achiever and killer and made it clear I’m NOT either. I don’t mind winning but my enjoyment comes from exploration or in these posts from socializing with other people.
In MMORPGs I love to just travel overland to see the creative and artistic scenery – I explore … I also enjoy exploring how each game works. Much of the reason I wrote Mods to increase my starting advantage was to explore how to mod. I frequently spend more time writing Mods: reading, trialing, and tweaking the mod; than playing the game with the mod. In fact one thing I find very boring in playing is that I have to constantly re-input unit building (or item forging) instructions and constantly move units to the front. Maybe someone has a Mod to do this or I’ve simply overlooked Dom3 ability but I get so tired of repeated builds and moves.
However one thing is still perfectly clear to me – we have different opinions including even your continued insistence that your statements are somehow more than simply your opinion (in my opinion).