[gowb]

Moderation: I agree completely, but there really is a lot of good roleplaying going on, if you read the right threads. There were a couple I read on the second or third page where the guys were having all sorts of adventures talking about their prophets fighting trolls or whatever. It owned.

Of course there are some people who are bad at it and break character immediately when other people don't play their way...IndyPendant comes to mind. But you have to take the good with the bad and you can just avoid guys like that if you need.

So don't give up hope! I much prefer that my nation works thematically. I absolutely don't care about min maxing and will probably do pretty poorly when it comes to actually playing. For instance I absolutely won't pick a pretender who doesn't fit perfectly with the nation concept (the Pheonix with Abysia makes no sense to me, for example, even though it's probably a great choice).