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llamabeast said:
I don't think Bandar Log or Patala are weak. I think most experienced players don't think they're weak.
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I agree. They take a little more subtlety to play than the average nation, but with elephants, strong astral and very strong non-unique summons they've got obvious good options for early, middle and late game. With a little bit of cleverness/luck they've got a bunch more options from awesome blood summons to recruitable/easily summonable national thug chasises.