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Old May 23rd, 2008, 09:23 AM

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Default Re: New Finnish OOB

So far most the above fixes etc. is true. In addition I have:
-Given Marksman (ItPsv 90) the new icon, that is used in the default OOB (finally, thanks devs!!)
-Given NLAW teams LRF stat of 22 (see post NLAW on this forum to see why) - vision remains the same 15 I used so far
-NLAW is no longer in same category as AT-patrols, but in same as Bn ATGM-teams... (in 2009 when you buy a Bn ATGM unit, you get to choose NLAW or Spike) There has not yet been any information of how the NLAWs will be used in Organization, except that they are for operational units. Having them on Company level (as in previous version) seems very unlikely when considering the NLAW deal moneywise (not THAT many units!!!)
-XA-180 and 185 with no AAMGs, as the AAMG is the weapon of the unit the XA is transporting, not integral with the vehicles! (example, Jaeger platoon 90/91 with 3 vehicles has only 2 AAMGs, so 1 XA-18X has no AAMG on it)
-modded BMP-2 has no more extra armour and can swim... It still has TIS and new AP round (APDS)
-the "what if" C-130 was removed, as the Finnish Goverment decided to participate in C-17 deal with some 14 countris instead of buying a plane or two of its own. As these birds are used by Finns 4 days a year, I've not included them in the OOB as heavy transport as in chrisis, what are the odds to get them into use? lol
-Spike teams are now so, that Spike MR is battalion level asset, LR is Bde level and ER is Navy anti-shipping missile...
-any Bn/Bde ATGM platoon -formations all have now 4 launchers instead of the old 2 launchers.
-NSV AAMG will have 1 better RF and FC from 96 onwards
-AMOS from 2009 onwards, as seeing them operational this year seems very unlikely!
-Leopard 2R naming is now "Leo 2R Plow" and "Leo 2R Dozer" to clarify it
-Added 155 K 83-97 from 1998 onwards - this one can fire NATO munitions too, which means ICM. K 83 can no longer fire ICM. K 83-97 / K 98 ammo loads changed
-AMV APC now with AAMG (2008 onwards) and AGL (2010 onwards) -> this is available in Jaeger plt/co 05+ -formation... platoon has 3 AMVs, 2 with AAMG and 1 with AGL (similar to US stryker -platoon, which may be possible here too, who knows?)
-removed RK riflegrenade from all units...
-coast jaegers available from 1961 onwards (they started in early 1960s just like the paratroopers)
-MI-8 service date expanded to 2015 as due to NH deal delays, MI-8 expire date was moved forth by repairing at St.Petersburgh
-SpecJaegers now para-trained
-biggest change, which I am most likely including, is the "realistic radio numbers", that reduces the chance to have radios for infantry units DRAMATICALLY!! Only exeptions are the newest formations (readiness bdes, mech BG, modern coast jaegers, spec ops) that all have radio 90. Most infantry units now have radio 0 (zero, nada), as FDF traditionally has had radios for infantry so, that maybe company CO has one, and that's it, next ones you find in battalion. This of course does not affect FO's they have radios naturally. BUT this means a jaeger company in 1995 has maybe a few radios in the Pasis (as they have bigger % of having a radio) and 1 in each FO section and that's it! This will affect the playing style in a very realistic way, as now you need to keep your units "in contact" by having them closer to each other, just like is done in reality. If you disperse your infantry units too much, you'll notice a dramatic decrease in fighting ability especially when receiving suppression. You should notice the difference very well, when you next take a Jaeger company 05 in modern times, as each section has a radio. Some units, such as early pzjaegers and all sissi/recce units have a better chance for having a radio, but they are "not given out like candy"

EDIT:
-also added SBJ units (special border jaegers) as semi-specops (Something like paratroops without para-training). These are the Border Guard's specially trained troops that would most likely be important prior to chrisis in the border areas, and also in war time they would have specialized missions, such as raiding and recce in those areas of the country. This category is also used for border guard's readiness unit (the cutthroat -guys with G36C). There'll be few different weapon choises for these guys, as it seems to be mission specific; RKs with optics, G36, PKM, KP2000 (MP5), KRPIST 2002, KES, Mines/Explosives...
-Will also take a closer look at all "spec ops" units bonuswise etc. (paras, divers, specjaegers, SBJaegers)

Now when will we have bridge layer equipment in SPMBT as I just saw our newest Leguan -toys

Zip

PS. True about the infantry units, but gotta remember that 35 seems to be now the age above which you may no longer get a war time duty in the frontline (???) - The "reserve inf" units are to present that old and untrained lot. Also got to remember that even with only maybe 1 professional soldier in a battalion (CO), the skill level of the reserve officers is very variable, from excellent to pure ****, with mediocre reserve officer being actually quite good at his game, especially if (when) he gets to train for a while after being called to arms and before thrown into fire...
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