[Twan]

With indies 5 I think odds are small to lose with elephants, so I don't feel really concerned.

But I'd find better to skip (stale everyone for) this kind of turns, it's a free province for the bless nations who can blind attack and be 99,99% sure to win, others basically have the choice between losing one turn of expansion or risking to lose their starting army (and so several other turns) against dark vines or knights.