[StrictlyRockers]

chrispedersen said:

Strict,

I find that an unworthy imputation. You want a restart, because I'm invading your capitol. Rather than voting against it, I merely said if a majority of people who voted wanted a restart, we would restart.

I didn't even vote - so for you to make the imputation that I can't count votes fairly - is really below the belt-especially since its so easy to check: Zen, secretperson and klag voted against restarting.

The point of all of this is to have fun - most of us are going to lose - but hopefully we can put up a good fight, learn something, make some friends and win or lose have a good time.

As for the the strength of the independents, theres nothing I can say other than when I started the game, the one thing I knew I wanted was a game against tougher independents, because I find expansion with an awake pretender - which is what I was going to have - too easy. And the strength of the independents was announced as 7 from the very beginning.

Anyway, as a host, I want the players to have fun. And no position or start is going to be perfect. I regret that the start was not flawless. I wish it were - or that there was a perfect way to resolve issues. But to be fair to the players that are doing well and that are doing well, as long as they want to continue the game, then I will continue hosting.

Best to all.

Chris,

The vote that we can all see on the forums was clearly in favor of a restart. How is anyone supposed to know that there were "secret votes"? It would have been nice if you could have explained to the players that there were "secret votes" that were not cast on the forums.You offered no such explanation, hence my confusion.

I am definitely not attempting to impugn your honor. I am just seeking some explanation. Thank you for filling me in. A concientious host might have decided to post something along the lines of, "Hey guys, just so you know, I'm counting some "secret votes" that no one gets to see, so the vote on the forums doesn't really mean anything." That would have helped to avoid the confusion.

It also might have helped to avoid confusion over the vote for the restart if you had made some final post about it somewhere after the deadline for voting passed. Or you might have offered people one last chance to get their votes in if they missed the deadline.

I said I am happy either way, and I am. I would like a restart so that everyone who wants to play this one gets the chance to. My desire for a restart has nothing to do with the cursed, crippled, chest wounded pretender you have attacked me with. But hey, good luck with that.

I know that Xanator and Bwaha both feel like the game's start was rushed, and they missed out on getting their pretenders in. Those two want a restart. I also know of another player in the game, a "secret voter" if you will, who wants a restart, but did not get the chance to vote because he does not check the forums regularly enough.

Even if you don't count those three, there are still four votes on the forum in favor of restarting, not three as you posted. I'm happy with playing on. I don't care too much one way or the other. I just want to be clear that this is your game, and you can play it any way you want to, and we are going to continue not because the majority's vote was respected, because it wasn't, but because you are "having the best start you've ever had in any game".

chrispedersen said:
Voting will continue until midnight. I have agreed to respect the will of the majority.. but man! I had the BEST start I've ever had in any game.

No good deed goes unpunished. =)

Move to restart failed on 3-3.