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Old June 13th, 2008, 09:56 AM
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Default Re: Morris-Commercial C8 FAT

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chuckfourth said:
Unit 104 in the British OOB, "Morris Quad GT" is modeled in the game as armoured actually It appears it was unarmoured.
Assuming that the "Morris Quad GT" is actually "Morris Commercial C8 FAT" Mk III.
See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morris_C8
amongst others.

Maybe I'm missing something, but where does it say anything about the Morris Quad being armoured or not?

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I think its pretty clear that the "Morris Commercial C8 FAT" Mk III isnt armoured all the references Ive been able to find confirm this. From a common sense point of view why would you armour the vehicle and leave the windows glass? without any armoured shutters, and if the limber, gun and gun crew arn't armoured whats the point of armouring the vehicle?
That is some nice speculation, but again, where does it say anything about the Morris Quad being armoured or not?

I dont know whether whether the Morris Quad was armoured or not, but I think Pat has a valid point, speculation doesn't quite do the trick. To solve the riddle, you need some references which actually discuss the material and thickness of the cab or a measure of the cab itself, if possible.

As for partly armoured towing vehicles towing unarmoured guns, there are other examples. It is obviously rather difficult to armour a towed gun, but as long as the towing vehicle is capable of movement, you can at least move the gun out of harms way, even if it is damaged. So it might make some sense to put light armour the towing vehicle.

The picture Pat was referring to as apparently showing an armoured quad apparently pictures a Canadian Ford built gun tractor:

http://www.sixtharmygroup.com/portal..._1941_p_42.jpg

Somthing like this one:
http://www.oldcmp.net/qldfat12.html

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The armoured Quad Ive not seen before. It doesnt appear in any WWII pictures Ive ever seen, maybe its a post war development? or a one off? Also, it appears the rear 'tray' isnt armoured, this seems to have a canvas cover, so wether it is a field artillery tractor(FAT) is questionable. Lastly, the not inconsiderable extra weight of the armour would probably mean less ammunition for the gun and a less mobile gun tractor.
What picture are you referring to?

If it is this one:
http://www.sixtharmygroup.com/portal...-scout-car.jpg

.. you are right, it is not a gun tractor, it is a Canadian produced C15TA armoured truck. AFAIK it was used as an APC, ambulance, radio vehicle and other purposes.

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