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Well, as I suspected:
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Aezeal:
Martin writes great books and I think it is better than Tolkien in quite some ways.
While I'm not great fan of Tolkien myself, I think that if you say that Martin is even close, you just demonstrate a lack of understanding the genre and/or lack of reading much good books. I surely don't hold it against you, but...
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dragon of .... etc.. is IMHO not a very good series and I don't think there is good character development at all.
Well, you probably didn't read all that much of it as character development begins even in first trilogy.. Though it's true that much of it wasn't by authors' merit but rather by players who played that module out (one of the best published adventures' series, by the way).
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I like Jordans books, even the late/last ones
Which also speaks a lot.
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Steven Erikson hasn't been mentioned I think his Malazan books of the Fallen
Why I personally didn't read it, it WAS mentioned her (first page iirc).
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Feists (Magician and his serpentwar saga)
Just boring. And this by the man who had read much of T$R fantasy in his time. Though usually liked by girls... I have heard that there are some good monsters in there, but I couldn't make myself to dig through his bland language for them...
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the name of the wind by Patrick Rothfuss
Didn't read it. And probably won't since it's recommended by a man who thinks Jordan great.
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Tad Williams (Dragonthrone series (real name to long) and his war of the Flowers book

Read it some years ago. iirc, not bad, but not particularly impressive either. Of course, there was the time I could read EVERYTHING...
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Scott lynch's books about locke lamora ... it's different and it's good
Different from what, for Cthulhu's sake?!! "Conman in fantasy setting" is one of the oldest staples of genre! It's even present in one of R.E. Howard's short stories, not to mention Leiber with his Fafhrd & Grey Mouser!
And Lynch is particularly bad at it also. The only con in the first book which was good thought out is the one played by the Grey King on the main protagonist - and it worked mainly because the said protagonist didn't act as conman (or any criminal) should in the situation (not mentioning the magical help antagonist had). Read O'Henry, for Cthulhu's sake!
By the way, among Russian RPGers such fantasy is characterized by "dice rolling is heard" term. It's seen quite clearly that it was adventure module played out by not particularly good players under a novice DM. Feist is similar BTW, but he at least got his homework as DM done - it's mainly with writing all this down that he has a problem. Also, I don't see how anyone can call Lynch "different" after reading Feist. They are practically twins except Feist is older and was on the market much earlier...
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Drizzt books (RA Salvatore)
Well, young girls loved them, that's for sure. After some RPG experience they either gained much irony considering these or just stopped to read them...

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Xietor:
I am surprised KO does not have a hero named Pug or Calais.

May it be because KO have read more quality fantasy?
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HoneyBadger:
I very strongly recommend David Drake's King of the Isles series to any R.A.Salvatore fans out there.
Being not a fan of Salvatore (or Greenwood, for that matter!) at all, I think I'll pass. Or is it somewhat better than Drake's usual?
Among T$R authors I would also consider Knaak already mentioned here and - just possibly - Gary Gygax himself. He writes not especially good, I must say beforehand, but he's a font of most AD&D initial ideas (as in: beholders, dark elves, and dungeon crawling adventures in general). The girl who'd written Curse of Asure Bonds isn't bad, but her name slips me and it's not very good by itself. Just not bland and not foolish, which is more than can be said about most "dice rolling" fantasy. It's also probably out of print by now.
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