[licker]

I started with E9, because it is much cheaper, but it really didn't seem to help much, as the issue was killing things quickly (which is why I tried water). Nature4 is 1HP and then 3HP when the rider dies... Useless unless I'm missing something.

I've run several tests with E9F4N4 and the W9F4A5 and find that the spiders actually survive better with the W9 than the E9. I think its the quickness which really makes the difference.