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Old September 26th, 2008, 06:06 AM
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Default Re: Turmoil 3 / Luck 3?

I don’t think there is an event CAP. I am not sure there is even a soft cap where it gets difficult to get more after 3. If your empire is large and expanding unless you are doing a dom kill strategy you often have large areas not under your dominion or not heavily. So whether you have picked Luck or Order you are not actually benefiting from your scales everywhere all the time.

But there are many problems with Luck from a raw power rather than interest/theme point of view.

I probably fall in to Gandalf’s play the same size maps with similar scales trap but I have noticed something about Luck. It tends to give in most cases what you have.

When I was testing Jomon builds I often tried Production & Luck. The former being something I seldom play with even with resource hungry powers, whether I am playing SP or MP. I got lots of Iron mine finds and even more of those province production improvement events (Merchants?). Far more than with any other scales I have played. The net result is having paid a lot for extra production in scales I got even more.

Most of the Heroes, even with Worthy Heroes, give you what you already have. I am not saying that the Heroes are not nice. They are. But when I played Pythium I got a nice mage that was similar to a good Arch Theug. Great, but I could recruit one. Likewise I got a few Master of the Games. A potential Thug but soon eclipsed by Pythium’s national summons of flying, sacred, mage Thugs. Plus some Snake Rider chappie who seems to be marginally better than one of my recruitable err Snake Rider Commanders.

Jomon gets a nice Assassin to go along with the recruitable Assassins and a Red Devil General who appears to just be an extra commander.
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The Giant Powers – Fomoria, Utgard etc. often get decent Giant Commanders. But they can already recruit these. One of the Jotun /Utgard ones gives Air Magic which is very nice but this is the very problem with luck. Far too little is of this nature, something different that can open up new options for you.

Luck would be far better if there were not National Heroes but simply Heroes that you had a better chance of getting.
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Even the gem and gold bonuses seem to fade. Later in the game when you have enough provinces under luck to be having a Gem find and a Gold bonus (100-200 usually) each turn, while nice, is not that big a deal compared to the large boost in income Order gives. Plus there is often a sting in the tail with Gem finds. Sometimes some units are cursed in return. That’s fine if it is a mundane unit but eventually your Pretender or a valuable SC/Thug gets caught.

Even with high luck you still get some bad events and even with minor misfortune you still get some Heroes. I like Luck and do use it. For the same reasons others have posted. Sometimes I want a bit more chaos and fun that it can bring. It really gives too little Chaos and Fun and its opposite just isn’t that bad.

Whether you play SP or MP it is easy to write off a game if you get a bit of killer bad luck early. This isn’t real life; you can just give up and restart. Once you get past the early game luck just doesn’t do enough and misfortune hurts too little. There is nothing wrong with having a choice that offers you a different if less powered nation. We can all play nations and produce too many of the weaker units by choice or by mistake and it doesn’t necessarily doom us. But sadly luck is a frustratingly weak pick it doesn’t seem to be powerful or even interesting enough. Yet a few extra good and interesting events and some extra bad ones could make this scale more of a real choice.

Can events be modded at all?

Last edited by Hoplosternum; September 26th, 2008 at 06:08 AM.. Reason: Edited for Formatting. Cutting and pasting from Word causing problems again :)
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