[Xietor]

the mysterious temp sub is hadrian, but he is not the perm sub. He has already declined that position.

I do see your point Don C. But you are at War with Formoria and you are attacking him. Those are facts. He will see how minor when he takes over the position.

Again, Hadrian should only be doing 1 turn. It is my intent, hope, fervent desire to have a perm sub in place for turn 69. hadrian's deals will not bind the perm sub. Nor will mine.

A perm. sub is free to renounce all former ties and cut new deals. That is the difference between a perm sub and a temp. As a temp Sub Hadrian is not free to renounce treaties etc.

That is why I cautioned it would be prudent to wait one turn and deal with the perm sub-whoever that may be.

In fact, if Tyrant attacked you, then as a temp sub, that is exactly what Hadrian should do to follow what the main player has done. The perm. sub will be free to make peace etc if that is his desire.

Personally I think he should barbeque the werewolves. They taste yummy!