Re: best way to get a non astral nation to s9
You don't really use water gems much anyway, and you'll always be forging with dwarwen hammer, although clamming always left me with no nature gems.
I find it good to take a strong astral pretender if you're going for clams, more clams=more astral, more astral=more wishing for gems, more wishing=more gems for clams, and so on.
If you start with a nation with no astral income and become the absolute astral powerhouse than that really something.
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