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Originally Posted by Kuritza
Water is a waste? 
Quicken self and breath of winter for pretender, boots of speed for your golems, clams for an astral nation - I wouldnt call it a waste. Btw, you can have BOTH bloodstones and clams.
Also, there aren't many nature indies in the late age, and Vodyanoi comes with N1.
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It's a waste because you have to spend points to get it that you would otherwise be able to spend elsewhere.
Sure D9 is great on your pretender, oh and so is A9 and E9 and B394,498,283, but you have to spend points to get those things. Those buffs are infinitely worse then the air and earth buffs that you get nearly for free with the cyclops. Generally with nonundead SC quickness is just bad because it makes you gain more fatigue per-turn, unless you have a blood thorn, or some other type of fatigue draining attack item.
Also, N1 does not really properly expand you "into nature". You'll need to get a +1 nature stick from a neighbor, and you still can't clam properly because you don't have a N/U guy.
Jazzepi