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					Originally Posted by Poopsi  Really? It sounds more like some Bogarus adittion. There“s a fivefold angel in already. |  Umm, the Bogarus guys have "5 folds" created by flaying and stretching their own flesh.  The new guys relate to Buddhist concepts, rather than body alteration.    | 
	
 Yeah, more like, mind alteration. Mind over matter 
