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Originally Posted by Tifone
Could you please find another relevant source? One beginning with...
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Yes, Monckton has an opinion, and I cited him only to support my facts about Kilimanjaro. I never asked you to believe his analysis, because uncritical belief is exactly what I'm criticizing here. But okay, you asked for a more neutral source for the facts. Here's the paper Monckton cited.
http://eclogite.geo.umass.edu/climat...al_2003jgr.pdf
Abstract: In the context of investigating modern glacier recession on Kilimanjaro, which began around 1880, this study addresses the glacier regime of the vertical ice walls that typically form the margins of Kilimanjaro’s summit glaciers. These walls have suffered a continuous lateral retreat during the twentieth century...
*snip to body* AWS data through July 2002 show that monthly mean air temperatures only vary slightly around the annual mean of 7.1 C, and air temperatures (measured by ventilated sensors, e.g., Georges and Kaser [2002]) never rise above the freezing
point.
By the way, it looks like Monckton was incorrect about sublimation being the primary mechanism, at least according to Molg. Molg concludes that air temperatures are unimportant, and that direct solar radiation is the driver behind the recession. (I.e. it is "melting" after all. At least I think that's what he's saying.)
Do you apply this level of scrutiny to both sides of the global warming debate, or are you skeptical only of the skeptics? If you're skeptical of both, then good.
-Max