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Originally Posted by KissBlade
I agree with HB & Endo's sentiment that this guide really isn't giving most people anything new
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I didn't say that. It's not giving new stuff to veterans. I'm not a veteran, just a regular, and learned a lot reading this guide.
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Originally Posted by vfb
Oh no, it sounds like you're trying to revoke Baalz's poetic license! C'mon, it's flavorful and good for you too.  His next guide could look like this: |
I've enjoyed Baalz's over-the-top writing before and hope to enjoy it in the future. However, flavorful can come off wrong. My comment on this guide (first reply in the first page) is an example of that. I meant to say that Niefelheim played according to this guide would be wicked to play against and wicked fun to play as, but it didn't come out that way.
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Originally Posted by Sombre
Endo: I have to wonder if you even read what HB posted. He might try to weasel out of it, but he's pretty clearly saying that Baalz is plagiarising other peoples ideas and that he had already come up with them
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HB said he had come up with SOME OF the ideas Baalz used.
If he'd just linked to his post instead of quoting the whole of it, the tone of his post wouldn't have seemed nearly bad as it did. Here are some chosen quotes from the other parts of that message:
"...most of what's suggested here is a retread of things that have already been suggested, often more than once. Not all of it, but a lot. Just to give one example, here's a copy of a post I made in September 30 of last year..."
"I'm not trying to grab credit for Baalz' work-and this *is* a nice, concise guide-but it's a little insulting to other people who originally came up with these ideas and aren't recieving any credit for them, and it's insulting to Baalz for people to say that it's some of his best work, since he really *has* come up with some fantastic, innovative guides. ... There's just not a lot that's original here. It's either old ideas gathered together, or Baalz' standard tactics applied generically to yet another Nation."
Here's the part where HB suggests that Baalz borrowed ideas, with a clause for the chance that Baalz came up with it independently.
"I don't mind anyone using my ideas, but I like to recieve credit for them, and I'm sure I'm not alone in this. It's not so terribly difficult to do a little research and see if your "great new idea" has ever been thought of before."
Even a single sentence about experienced players already being familiar with some of the stuff mentioned in the guide would have been enough to keep HoneyBadger from posting. It wouldn't have taken that much to keep what HB posted sounding less hostile. It probably got worse in further posts, but fire tends to spread and there's little to do about that.