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Old January 12th, 2009, 03:06 PM
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Default Re: Recovery vehicles? (Or where's my Scammel?)

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i know about the dedicated recovery vehicles, and they usually arent in the frontline
I got the answers I was looking for in the tread "Repair vehicle and units", but I have to comment on some of the answers in this tread.

Frontlines do move they are not static.

There may be different way of support in different countries, and how to use them.
I don’t know them all, but I know my own country and organization.

My former battalion (armored) has a combat support company, where different support elements followed the point units, not among the MBTs or IFVs, but close. ARV, mechanic, Medic so on, all armored. We usually was a part of the group led by the second of command in that company, and was sent forward when needed. The support structure would vary from time to time, based on the mission.

I have myself been both mechanic and commander on Leopard 1 ARV and M113 APC, with a mechanic squad. And as a mechanic on different kind of MBTs, IFV and APC, from private to command headquarters, playing all the roles in a process from the executing in HQ to carrying out in the field.

When that is said, our ARV are so called signature material, they are few and juicy targets.

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Recovery/repair is REALLY out of the game's scope, or do you think its easy to repair a track under fire with nearly no tools?have you ever tryied to to an M1 ABRAMS out of tons of mud?you need time and the propper equipment to do that, during WW2, the germans left their damaged TIGER TANKS behind, as the ONLY thing that will tow a tiger in a combat situation IS A TIGER,so 2 tigers become useless instead of 1, its not like changing punctured tires...
I totally agree. These kinds of actions are not conducted in the frontline, but behind.
I have been recovered a Leopard1 MBT 100 % drown in mud and march. It took us 48 hours to get it up and to safety. Maybe the hardest job I ever done.
Historically speaking you are also right about the Tiger, there was only the Tiger that could recover the Tiger. And the Germans dint have that many operational Tigers on their frontlines, because of mechanical failures, damaged in battles, moved from place to place to function as fire brigades, where needed etc etc.

But, I also agree with montieth.
Vehicles today and back then had their wires to drag, or be dragged to safety or dragged out of a ditch, or another kind of obstacle.
And there are different kinds of immobilization, from a blown of track or engine breakdown, to minor or more major damage.

But like I said introductorily, I got my answers from my own post about this subject, and I can live without this function in the game.
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