Re: The Art of Thuggery
Lingchih are you thinking of Mound Kings maybe? Bane Lords are such good thugs that with the right gear they are mini-SCs.
In the Bonsai Kitten game I had a Bane Lord in the HoF with 430 kills, around turn 60. He'd solo some enemy armies, sometimes team up just with a Turkey, and sometimes work as a thug in a bigger army of mine. Even Banes (the Conj-3 guys) and Black Servants make pretty good thugs.
I agree that 50HP and regen is a good estimate of when you can use an Eye Shield though. Or, if you just don't have Const-4 yet, Eye Shields are an okay substitute for a Vine Shield. Or if you are fighting one-eyed or low-MR monsters -- I think an Eye Shield might do better against Vine Ogres than Vine Shield maybe, if your defense is high or your protection is good enough to withstand a few blows.
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