[licker]

Yeah, that is a shame, but I can see it. This games turns take me a couple days to really do properly, and even there I feel I'm not really optimizing anything.

Though at this point the amount of cloud trapeezing Niefel Jarls I have supported by packs of skratti werewolves, and everyone can have most anything they want thanks to my forge makes it difficult for me to see where I would have any trouble with a Caelum on AI.

I haven't seen the last turn, but if it went as it probably did for me Caelum is starting to feel the pinch of some real armies in his lands in stead of just raiders.

Marverni and I worked out a bit of a deal again anyway, and though we have no NaP anymore also don't have any real build up on our border anymore either.

So unless he's got something up his sleeve (and he could, communions and lots of research...) I kind of agree with rdonj at this point.

I'm willing to play it out a bit longer though if others are interested, at least through the end of March when I again have to go on a trip for 3+ days.