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Originally Posted by vfb
I think Jim meant "intelligent beings other than humans who have at least once directly manipulated human thought processes". So, no dice on Ray Fuller or the minions rabbiting away at Eli Lilly.
Getting kicked in the head by a moose doesn't count either.
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Indeed. Humans manipulating human thought processes is exactly evidence of intelligence (or determination), and not the other way around.
Omni- Your example is interesting, but still - it resides in that gray area I mentioned, where a computer is able to simulate a "function of" intelligence, but still only does so within the precise framework allotted to it, and does not portray any evidence of conscious understanding of what it has developed - nor does it ever deviate from the format of the programming.
Now, if the computer one day synthesized speech through speakers that were installed, with no provided software, and said "hey doc, I can talk!", well then, we'd have something.