[namad]

solution to the unfunness problem might be ... fixed duration games...


on turn X whoever has the most Y wins no questions asked.. just before turn X there will be a hot amount of fighting just like in VP grab situations??


if no one has the most Y on turn X it would be a draw...


X could be 40or50or60or70... Y could be provinces or VP's or income/gemincome/provinces (all three required)

this way you wouldn't have to get someone's opinion on if they think something that isn't a win technically should count as a win anyways...


in a fixed duration game i suppose you could also still make it so that if someone obtained 50% of the vp's before the turn X deadline they could "win early"






in baseball a game must complete 5innings for it to be called a win for the team in the lead... such clauses could be added to future games (clauses other than the ones i suggested but again in this spirit of baseball-ness)

i have no problem with someone considering themselves the victory of something at any point... personally i would never accept a victory in which I had not "won" the thing is... if everyone except qm/micah/psisoldier went AI psisoldier would most certainly lose... the other point being though that while qm/micah might be in the "best" position their combined effectiveness is probably something like 45% of the games combined might (which is less than half) BUT there is a) no alliance against them and b) no one willing to play in such an alliance anyways...


you know what would be fair maybe? every team in the game votes and if a majority votes to give the win... then it is a win? because right now as far as i can tell the only voting that has been done is.... micah/qm vote they win psisoldier votes they draw utgard/bogarus wishes to abstain... everyone else is too lazy to have said anything at all that leaves 3teams yet to vote if either of you could get two of them to agree with you that would be fairly good cause to consider yourself "right" ? yes?