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Originally Posted by Jazzepi
But really, don't speak when you don't know what you're talking about. I generally stick around, even when being run over roughshod (go look at first or third mega game), but in this case submitting turns would have just been an exercise in frustration. At some point, I really don't care if it makes the game harder for other people (and easier for some), I'm not going to drag myself through the mud to do exactly what the AI would do; lose.
Jazzepi
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Maybe you are right, maybe I have no idea what I'm talking about. It's happened before. It can happen again. But all I saw in this game is someone who lost a big fight, and then quit immediately after it. And I might add, without even so much as a polite message informing the other players that you were doing so. You say LA Atlantis is no fun, but you chose to play them, and many other players really enjoy playing them (Baalz for one I believe). So maybe they are not fun for you because you find it hard to win with them.
I also notice you recently went AI in the 'Beyond' game, and upon checking the llamascores, your nation of C'tis (which the game status page says you were playing in that game) had a huge load of provinces and gem income at the time. Still does in fact, even with the AI in charge.
'Beyond' thread -
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=42374
'Beyond' llamascores -
http://www.llamaserver.net/showScores.cgi?game=Beyond
Of course I do not know the whole story of the 'Beyond' game, but to my way of thinking, quitting in such a position (high province/forts/gems) is completely unthinkable, and destroys the balance of the game for the other players. And to be honest I dislike playing in games with any players who think it is acceptable to destroy the balance of the game by suddenly quitting, because I view that as a very selfish act which strongly diminishes that games enjoyment for others. That of course is just my opinion.
But I know for certain I would have struggled far more in this game, and probably have already lost, if LA Atlantis had been human controlled. So this has subsequently hurt my other two enemies Gath+Bogarus. So that is myself, 'Alpine Joe' and 'viccio' all affected because you quit to the AI, plus all the other fine 'Cripple Fight' players of course who now have an alive EA Ermor in the game when they should have had a dead EA Ermor.
To me these two incidents are not the actions of someone who claims to stick around and fight until the bitter end. If I am wrong then I apologise unreservedly, but I can only go by what I see, and what I see is someone who has quit two games because they were in the very early stages of losing a war. Although in the 'Cripple Fight' case you weren't even losing the war, you just lost a big fight.
We all play this game for fun, but some people only consider something fun if they are winning or succeeding.