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Old June 14th, 2009, 07:26 AM

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Default Re: Cripple Fight! - And the Lame shall inherit the earth!

Yes I have based my conclusions on recent examples, as that's all I had to go on. Two examples, two incidents of you turning quickly to AI. I could trawl through all your posts from your previous games to find counter evidence, and maybe I will if I find the time, or have the desire to. And those examples may well change my opinion. But if anyone wishes to change someone else's opinion of them, it is usually they themselves who have to put the effort in, not the other way around. I never stick doggedly to one view-point if there is strong evidence to suggest my views are wrong. But at the moment I have no counter-evidence so........

I seen your post on the 'Beyond' thread, and to me it only backs up my view point. You asked for help in fighting Pythium, nobody responded, so you quit. Nobody has any obligations to help you fight your wars, and they will only do so if it's in their best interests. Deal with it. Also, maybe they couldn't help you at the time you asked, but could have a few turns down the line. But you didn't exactly stay around to find out did you?

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Originally Posted by Jazzepi View Post
Otherwise we'll simply do our best to hold back Pythium.
So your best attempt at holding back Pythium was turning AI was it?


You are a very experienced player Jazzepi, far more-so than me, and you have been playing MP Dominions a lot longer than I have. You are also a very fine player, and again probably far better than I am. None of these things I am questioning or disputing. But I don't see how that makes my views any less valid than another persons on this issue. Since we are not discussing finer tactical / strategic points of the game itself, as what we are discussing is more along the lines of polite game etiquette. But if you are so experienced, then surely you must know how much players turning AI spoils the game for others? And I'm sorry, but there is no way you can argue that turning AI at any point has 'no' impact on a game, because it has spoilt every game I have ever played in at one stage or another.

I believe that when a player signs up for a game, they are making a commitment to that game. A commitment to play fairly by the rules of the game, and to ensure as best they can that their actions help others to enjoy the game (in a broad sense). As in theory, if everyone does that, everyone will enjoy the game And to me this commitment doesn't end the moment a player is no longer having (their type of) 'fun'. Again this is just my opinion, and may very well differ to the opinion of others.

It is understandable that nobody wants to acquire any bad reputation, but everyone is free to make their owns judgements on each and every person they encounter in life. I have done so here. You have quit two recent games I can see, one I was involved in, and I know first hand the consequences of your actions in that game as a result. It was not a positive consequence.

So because of this my first impression of you (purely as a Dominions player) is someone who quits games quickly when things go against them, and who doesn't mind if they spoil the enjoyment of these games for others. How can I conclude otherwise? This impression I have can / maybe will, change, but it won't happen without a reason. And at the end of the day, if you don't like other players thinking you are a quitter in games, then don't quit games. That appears to be the most logical solution to me.
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