[Micah]

Well, so be it, how long was our NAP for again WL?

I only started "underestimating" Marignon and asking for concessions once I had smashed both of his armies and made significant progress against him.

As I said when I asked the first time, I will stop asking for a concession when I feel I am not growing in power (relative to other nations, at that) turn after turn. I suppose an impending NAP cancellation can count as a valid threat to my win though.

Regardless, I'll be surprised if there was much duking, late game fights tend to resemble scared girls slap fighting since the value of provinces is so much less than the value of now-fragile SCs.

And I would like tg to take Utgard, not Marignon, if he is alright with both, since we had good relations while he was playing the first time.