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Originally Posted by c_of_red
So I am no longer contributing to this thread. I have strong opinions and it doesn't upset me to argue with others that have equally strong opinions. I do have 248 slots available if anyone is interested. We can put it to the WinMBT test.
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There is no doubt there were versions of the T-72 that were built to an older and / or lower standard and sold as export and those for the most part are the ones that have made the news ( those and the obligatory shots of burning T-55's from those two wars but what does that prove ?.. that a tank designed just after WW2 has next to zero chance against the best tanks the west fields? Duh.) However, if you steadfastly refuse to believe that then there is little point in anyone offering any counterpoint information because all you'll do is dismiss it as propaganda or the claim the info comes from a "socialist organization " and the "argument" goes round and round and round then it's just as well you are no longer contributing to this thread because you simply are NOT contributing anything worthwhile besides personal opinion and alternate propaganda. As for putting it " to the WinMBT test " I have no doubt that if you take Iraqi and Russian T-72's with the same armour and armament and put them up against the best the US has to offer you'll get similar results to the Gulf War but what you seem to expect is that every battle between Western forces and Russian tanks should be a turkey shoot based on what has happened when "western" forces fought Arabs which is totally absurd IMHO.
A top of the line T-90A is NOT the same thing as an Iraqi T-72 any more than a M1 Abrams with the 105 gun is the same thing as a M1A2 SEP
Don