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Originally Posted by Gandalf Parker
I would consider CBM to be the top example of a popular mod that sprung from requests and has been fueled by discussion of desired improvements in the game. Or maybe no_indie maps. Llamaserver? The various save-game utilities? Im guessing that something like MegaGame (all nations in one game) is an example of one that got done but not the right way? Or SemiRand?
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CBM benefits from the discussions of a relatively restricted group of players who have a good sense of what can be done and what would work. It is still largely authored by qm, who puts in the actual work involved. It has nothing to do with the kind of 'brainstorming' I'm talking about. You'd have to ask qm to see if he finds those kind of posts useful - I see no evidence of them in cbm though.
NI maps were conceptually created by edi who mentiond offhand what setting the poptype too high would do. I shared a couple of map files I'd applied this theory to, because I personally found them enjoyable, not as a response to other people talking pie in the sky. A couple of other guys made scripts to NI any map in response to the map files I'd put out.
llamaserver is basically Llama's hard work. Like cbm it probably benefits from tweaks suggested by people who actually know what they're talking about. I assume llama ignores people who make silly requests and describe fantasyland ideal utilities.
SemiRand I'm not very familiar with, but I'd say once again it didn't benefit from half baked ideas with no grounding in what's possible.
Frankly I think you're just being ridiculous with those examples. None of them were born from the kind of useless brainstorming I'm talking about. You act as if I'm saying there can be no ideas from discussion, no tweaks suggested by users of mods and utilities, no response to a perceived want or need of the community.