[GrudgeBringer]

GOOD JOB folks, we have 17 Pretenders in and are waiting on Ianuki (Marverni). I have sent him a PM and an E-mail but have had no response.

I also have a Pretender from Abysia yhat is from the last player selected.
However, I told him we where full and then sent him a PM that he was in and asking for him to respond that he was playing, I have not heard from him.

Frozen Lama and Trumanator both are out of town and will be back today.

I don't want to start the game without someone, but I also DO NOT want an AI starting the game.

If I don't get the Marverni pretender by the time they get back I will assume Marverni changed his mind and dismiss him (I will send him another norice).

What is the feeling on Abysia, he sent in a pretender without asking to join (he truly is new) but has not responded to query's from me. Should I include him when we start on the premise that he is in, or delete him so someone doesn't get a free Fort by him staling and holding up the game (I will PM him agian also)?

My feeling is they both go if no response.

I am asking for some feedback from you guys (although i think I already know the answer).