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Old October 9th, 2009, 03:09 PM
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Default Re: M10, Wolverine, Achilles Self-Propelled Guns

Hi CBO,

Names

I respect your purist, and historical approach. No, really I do.

But I don’t think what the troops of the day did or didn’t call equipment should be the criteria with which things are named in the game; but I do agree that this should be taken into account.

In my opinion, the game should use names that are universally accepted and recognized by the players. ‘M10 Wolverine’ is far more recognizable (in the 21st Century) than ‘M10’. The OOB can be confusing enough for new players; let’s make it a little easier for them.

The Wolverine name is widespread and universal. Today, even the Americans have adopted the name, often referring to their own M10’s as ‘Wolverine’ in books and on websites. I guess similar to how many US (non-purists) call their M4 ‘Sherman’.

Don't worry, I'm not suggesting changing the US OOB to use 'Sherman'.

BTW, most sources I have seen do include ‘Wolverine’ and ‘Achilles’ in the ‘Official’ WW2 designation for the British M10.

Ps. Are you also suggesting (to be consistent) we should not use the name ‘Achilles’ in the British OOB?

Armour

Thank you for the additional info on the armour. You have confirmed my suspicions about the photos and local field fits.

I had heard about the M10 being originally prepared for additional bolt-on armor. I wasn’t sure if this is what the Brits took advantage of during the 17Pdr upgrade. But the source about the additional armour specifically said ‘welded”. I guess history is a mystery…


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Cross
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