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Originally Posted by AnimateDream
I know the time is long past for its relevance in this thread, but I think I have a more fair method of nation selection. abcd dcba dcba dcba dcba etc. Reversing the order every time sounds logical but if you look very closely it does little for the fairness.
For example if you went abcd dcba abcd. The a's get first pick of the all important first draft as well as getting first pick of third draft, while d only gets first pick of the second draft and has to deal with being last in the other two.
After getting first pick in the first draft, trailing 4 picks behind D after that doesn't seem too bad a deal for A.
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What I was saying though in the previous post was that I was going to do away with all such alphabetical ordering schemes, and stick with my method, not only because I see them as unbalanced in one way or another (someone has to be A and get first pick, D get's two picks in a row, etc, etc.), but also because the simpler line by line granting of uncontested picks from the ordered lists is probably all we will need (+ swaps to quiet any discontent).
Hell, if I read DrP correctly, he'd do away with swaps completely and you'd get what you get and deal with it!
I think the uncontested pick method generally does a fine job of giving teams pretty much what they wanted based on what and how high they listed them in the ranked lists.
I think one reason Noobheim may have not have fared as well as the other teams this time (though I think all teams did pretty well i.e. no one got their 9th or 12 picks, everyone got their first pick, etc.) was by submitting a list of the full 17 nations instead of the 12 or 13 which probably would have sufficed, causing Noobheim to possibly dilute their top picks a bit and not concentrate them as much as perhaps the other teams did who submitted shorter lists. Yes, there is an element of luck, but that is present in any method I can think of.
But I would definitely entertain a complete solution to the whole business for the next game that is completely balanced, makes as many people happy as possible, is not too complicated and easy on the poor admin, and is not too time consuming.
The sense and respond approach which has been advocated (where captains take turns posting a pick) sounds appealing, but can take awhile especially if there are a lot of nations to assign, and the team captains are not that active on the forum. Then there is the whole business of ordering and then deciding who is team a, b, c, d, and some have advocated even changing that up every round. A chat session would probably be the fastest way to handle this type of sense and respond approach (active vs passive ranked lists). I wouldn't mind it a bit if the team captains could handle the whole business in a single chat session on shrapnel, and save me and everyone else the headaches.
Thanks for your input. I think the alternates will become hot commodities come next game if they choose to play.