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Old October 31st, 2009, 11:53 AM

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Default Re: Cripple Fight! - And the Lame shall inherit the earth!

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Originally Posted by Zeldor View Post
What S did you use for Nexus? I'd overwrite it next turn with S11, so no rolls could help it if you had less than 10.
Used a S6 base. But that, like a boosted S11, means nothing with regards the +5 per level bonus you get for being over the global path requirements. As only base level counts for that bonus (Micah taught me that from my brief time in Artefacts). So if I'm correct, it would just be a straight roll-off if you put up a 999 Nexus with anything less than a S10 base. And didn't see any S10 base casters in your roster, unless I missed it And even if you had a +5 bonus, I'd still have some chance of keeping the Nexus with a good roll (if my understanding of the dispel mechanics are correct. Which is from the manual)

Not sure if the current global holder wins a draw or not though. I assume the holder does, as in theory the global needs to be beaten I believe, not tied with.
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Nexus income was not so great, in the beginning it was <100, 70-80 most of the time. So it took ages to get a return. Later it got better - 120-150 [and about 180 when forge went up, so I guess the cost was about 250E]. Probably mostly because I started to wish for gems and forge/summon like crazy.
The poor-ish Nexus income is because I was hording my gems all the while you had the Nexus up Think my Nexus income was close to 200 IIRC. Summoned 2 Troll Kings and forged a few Air Boosters, plus some other long overdue stuff the same turn I put it up. Was going to follow with more Troll/Sea Kings and something Air-gem wise in short order to maximise return from the Nexus while I still had it. Probably spam Fire Snakes as well just for something to do with my huge Fire income. Predicted I'd have the Nexus for 5-6 turns when I put it up, but like I said, didn't expect you to be sitting on such a pearl stash.
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When I took over I had no big expectations. Extremely bad nation, pathless Kraken as a pretender... at least previous player killed another water nation fast and built some foundations for mid-game. But I think that other players' underperformance was also a key factor [Atlantis being top1 in research I mean]. Getting some diversification was tough.

I did some fixing - site searching what was missing, setting up clam factory, putting Maelstrom as research goal, securing some piece of land to get a place to summon stuff... also had lots of mages waiting for something, so decided to help Ermor with his struggle and attacked Gath. Resistance was surprisingly small, so I didn't get a chance to finish my grand army [iron dragons, siege golems, aboms...]. While fighting Gath and after I was consolidating power, getting artifacts and clamming more to put Nexus up.

With Nexus it was S3 hero that appeared few turns earlier, so 1 empowerment less Later I wished for that R'lyeh S5 hero [the one that enslaved Atlantis] as another wisher.

Of course when I put Nexus up, Abysia attacked me [hard to blame him] and I was really not prepared for that. He was at least 50% stronger at that point and I lost some land pretty fast. If he pushed harder at that point, it could have went otherwise. But I managed to prepare defences within few turns and counter-attack. You see results now
Still bashing MA Atlantis as a nation then don_Pablo will have to confirm this, but I think the entire build was designed to win the underwater blitz duel. So pathless Kraken seems odd, but it certainly did the job, with full water control by turn 11. Think Baalz also went for pathless Kraken in his MA Atlantis guide. So guess it must have some good merits.

I had to pay you a heavy tribute to get you to attack Gath instead of me. Which of course gave you the ready made land base you needed. With hindsight I probably gave you too much, but at that stage I really was on the brink having used up every stored resource I had to get to the winning stage against LA Atlantis, while holding the front against my Eastern foes. Another few turns and I would probably have been in an improved enough state to bargain a bit harder. But at the time I didn't think I had much choice other than to cough up the large blackmail being asked

Agreed there was some very uneven play around the place. But not surprised MA Atlantis had such a huge research lead, as they were war free from turn 11, and had more than enough resources and space to build a very useful empire. And during this peaceful MA Atlantis time, everyone else was expending a ton of resources in their respective wars.

But the lead MA Atlantis had still had to be converted, which you did admirably. Still surprised how quickly Abysia went down, as I had them well in front at one point. Was even predicting all those anti-Armageddon Fire Plates I was forging would come in very useful when the inevitable fight with Abysia came
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