[Burnsaber]

Yeah, I'm not in the game, put like any self-respecting IrC-dweller, I know of this thread and I've been following it. I've managed to keep myself from responding but the last two pages was just too much. I'm an outsider so I really don't have as much info as you guys on how the game ran, so I'm just writing based on what I've read on the thread.

Kuritza, you need to realise that not everyone plays like you do. I've seen similar tirades as yours in board game sessions (I'm a member of a local game club with weekly sessions), where a new player makes a sub-optimal move, screwing some experienced players plans -> drama. As shocking it might seem, some people aren't playing to win, but to have fun while playing. You can't get pissed at other people when they refuse to play like you want them to play (note emphasis).

Also note that a coordinated alliance against Ermor really isn't that bright move in all cases. All players who are fighting ermor are "losing" -> They are paying resources without getting much in return. This in turn is a advantage to those nation who are not in the front lines. Looks like the potential alliance members you were trying to rally up just thought that the allaince would be a losing move, probably because it would be benefit their neighbours more than them. "Why wouldn't you ally up so that I can win" really isn't that compelling argument. Or perhaps the players just didn't think that fighting Ermor would be as much fun as some other target. You are playing with humans, not machines out for the optimal gameplay stragedy.

Also, blaming the ruination of a game on "staling newbs" isn't really constructive. Dominions 3 is complex game, not just in mechanics but in diplomacy too. They will make mistakes and play in a suboptimal way. Newbies need to be encouraged and given friendly advice, not insulted.

If you have a problem with LA Ermor, may I suggest that you won't in future join in games which allow it? If you have problem with a player "rolling over newbs" perhaps try create a non-newb game? What I'm getting at is that this drama should end, for all sides to stop pointless complaining and instead try to learn something from the scenario.