[Septimius Severus]

Regarding any use of exploits, I doubt and would hope that no one has engaged in this sort of behaviour (stuff labs, etc). If winning is that important to you, hey you've got other issues going on, whether I've posted this or not.

The primary focus of this game is learning. Noobs learning by playing alongside of and against more experienced players. Winning is good but hey I just want to have fun, and frankly I have been having great fun and learning a great deal. Let's not let the lust for victory get the best of us or complain about possible bugs that may well be beyond our control.

I would call upon everyone to not act hastily and to honour the spirit of Baalz's pledge that you play till the end or at least stay in till a replacement can be found for you or your team concedes, dom3 bug or no.

If it were a server issue, that is a different story and we have tried to address them when they have occured.

We have completed the first stage in the game (expansion and conquering of the AI). The second stage is really only now beginning and promises to be the most fun and doubtless the most contentious part of the game. Teams will either die or concede at this point on.

I don't think it justifiable to call the game a draw over something that may or may not be a bug or limitation in Dom3, known or unknown. It is certainly not something I planned on or can really deal with. If it were a server issue or cheating, that is a different story. But failing that one team or another will have to be declared victor in this game in the end.

I have offered a poll of the players, that is the only fair thing I can think of doing. The team or player in question may say, well that is not fair, the truth is there are 16 players in the game and three other teams, we must let everyone decide.

Failing that, if a neutral expert on Dom3 bugs is available and willing to examine the .trn and last turns .2h files and reach a judgement I will allow this as well.

Hell, I'd even give gold to the team if I though it might stop the grumbling (rightly or wrongly, deservedly or not).

Let's keep our discussion constructive. If team ACGHHS simply refuses to continue or let this thing go and really wants to concede over such a thing, or won't agree to the above 2 measures, then there will be no rollback and the game will continue till the victory conditions as stated are met.

I may delay the current turn at my discretion and depending upon the response I receive from what I have stated. In the meantime, as for me, I'm checking in on my team's forum and playing my turn as usual just in case.