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Default Re: North Korea errors report

Here is the post with the fix for north korean organizations. It is a bit long but it should fix pretty much everything except the special forces/marines/airborne, for which I simply lack info to pass any judgement. There may still be a unit or two which need tweaks but with this nearly all of the work is done.

Formation 14 rifle company
1) Initial availability date should be changed to 1/1955
2) unit n. 68 82mm B10 RCL should be added in slot 8.
This configuration would be pretty good to represent a post korean war rifle company reinforced with battalion level support weapons.

The standard rifle company used during the korean war had a somewhat different organization
To fix that I suggest adding another rifle company with 2/1948-12/1954 as availability dates and the following structure.
1)rifle squad
2)three rifle platoons with four squads each
3)one weapons platoon in turn composed by:
a) Two MG sections such as unit 410 SGM MMG (2)
b) One unit 75 60mm Mortar Sec
c) Three unit n. 285 AT Rifle Team

Another rifle comnpany could be added composed by:
1)One Rifle Section unit n. 310
2)Three Formation n. 38 Rifle Platoon
1/1955–12/2020 as availability dates.
This in turn would represent a post korean war rifle company in its “by the book” configuration, according to what is reported by south korean sources. The players could reinforce with support weapons as desired.

Formation 15: Anti-Tank Pl
Inital availability dates should be moved back to 1/1967

Formation 22 Mech AT/AA Sec
Unit n. 69 107mm B11 RCL should be replaced by unit 431 Malutka Team.

Formation 33: Inf-ATGM Sec
Initial availability date could be moved back to 1/1972.

Formation 37: Mech Inf Pl
The MGs section in slot 4 should be deleted and the number of APCs should be reduced to three. Composition of a mechanized platoon is three squads with three APCs.


Formation n.69 Motor Bn Supt
- Formation n. 59 Motor MG Pl in slot n. 4 should be replaced by formation n. 13 SPAA Platoon
- Formation n. 89 Mot Mortar Pl in slot 5 could be replaced by formation n. 115 modified as described
- Formation n. 15 Anti-Tank Pl should be added in slot 6.

Formation n. 115: Mot Hvy Mort Pl
- name changed to “Mot Mort Pl”
- unit n. 80 160mm Mortar in slots 1-2-3 replaced by Unit 77 82mm Mortar Sec
This would create a mortar battery mounted on wheeled APC, useful to complement motorized formations. 160mm mortars would, most likely, be towed by normal artillery prime movers.


Formation n.70: Inf Bn Supt
- Formation n. 35 Machinegun Pl in slot n. 3 should be replaced by formation n.30 Inf-SAM Sec
- Formation n. 32 AT Gun Platoon in slot 4 should be replaced by formation n. 29 AntiTank RCL Pl
- Formation n. 87 Inf AT Team in slot 6 should be replaced by formation n.33 Inf-ATGM Sec
This would provide the correct allottment of support weapons for an infantry battalion in the post korea war era.

Formation n. 77: SPG Platoon
The number of units shoudl be increased from three to four

Formation 85: Motor Rifle Co
- Unit 60 BTR-80 in slot 3 should be replaced by formation n. 387 Wheeled APC Pl
-Formation n. 59 Motor MG Pl in slot 4 should be replaced by unit n. 410 SGM MMG (2)
- Formation n.88 Lt Mortar Pl-M should be replaced by unit n. 77 82mm Mortar Sec
This would represent a mechanized company reinforced with support weapons from the battalion level and the transports for them

Formation 92: Motor Rifle Pl
Unit n. 70 73mm SPG9 RCL in slot 4 should be replaced by an AT team (such as template unit n. 285)

Formation n. 96: M/Inf ATGM Sec
Initial availability date should be moved back to 1/1972.

Formation n. 106 Rocket Bty
Another formation n. 107 Rocket Pl should be added in slot 5.


Formation n. 125: Reserve Company
Formation 39 Reserve Platoon in slot 7 should be deleted, reducing the number of reserve platoons from four to three.

Formation 39: Reserve Platoon
-The number of reserve squads should be reduced from four to three, either by deleting one of them or replacing one of them it with a AT team (such as template unit 285).
-Initial availability date should be changed from 2/1948 to 1/1954 to match its parent company.

Formation n. 141: Light Tank Pl
Number of tanks in the platoon should be reduced to three

Formation n. 214: Truck Inf Co
- Unit n. 286 RPG-2 Team in slot 7 should be replaced with with Unit n. 75 60mm Mortar Sec
- Unit n. 286 RPG-2 Team in slot 8 should be replaced with with formation n. 87 Inf AT Team
- Unit n. 223 Truck should be replaced with formation n. 392 Trucks (3)
- Final availability date should be restricted to 12/1954

Formation 216: Truck Inf Pl
The MG section in slot 4 should be replaced with a rifle section. Final availability date should be restricted to 12/1954

This would represent a truck mounted version of the korean war period rifle company. As no APCs were available in quantity at the time (some BTR-40 may have been around but from what I get they were probably used as armored cars/scouts) any motorized formation, to the extent any was used, would have been mounted on trucks.

Unit 61: Truck
Final availability date could be extended to 12/2020.
This would enable truck mounted formations with the correct post korean war company organization.

Formation 26: Mech Inf Co+Tk4
It could be deleted as redundant, besides it is unclear if the four tanks per platoon organization was used after the korean war. Formation 25 Mech Inf Co+Tk3 is quite sufficient.

Formation n. 6: Assault Co
The assault platoon in slot 5 would be deleted , reducing the number of platoons to three.

Formation n. 93 Assault Platoon
Composition should be changed to six units n. 340 SMG teams and one unit n. 350 LMG team.
This would represent korean war era SMG companies.


Some formations to be added
1) A clone of formation n.16 AA-Gun Battery but with six guns

2) A clone of formation n. 28 Field Gun Bty wityh the number of guns reduced to four and 2/1948-12/1979 as availability dates

3) A clone of formation n.32 AT Gun Platoon but with four guns and 2/1948-12/1955 as availability dates.

4) A Weapons Company Composed by
a) Two units n. 412 DShK HMG (2)
b) one AT Gun Platoon
c) Three formations n. 87 Inf AT Team
2/1948-12/1954 as availability dates


A clone of unit n. 175 130mm M46 Sec with the ammo load increased to 120 rounds per gun could be added.
This would be useful to represent those long range artillery units emplaced in prepared positions near the DMZ, one of the few strenghts of North Korea. In light of the fact that several high end units (T-80s, BMP-3s etc) would have to be deleted this would also be a partial compensation.
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