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Old February 16th, 2010, 12:54 PM
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Default Re: Cinggis Qayan, Wrath of the Khans

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Originally Posted by kennydicke View Post
As was I already, I wanted to make him an ivylord or whatever, where he summons extra vinemen, but couldn't.
You can. Just #copystats something that has ivylord and overwrite everything else about the unit that you don't need. IIRC, there is a indy mage called "Animist" that has ivy lord 2, he could be a good starting point.


As for trying out your mod, I think that I'll wait for the new version. It seems that this version has gotten a lot of feedback already.

Although, I have read this thread and some things caught my eye that I'd like to rise up. You mentioned something about wanting the nation to have "really poor late game", to sort of balance its early game power. I'm sorry to inform that won't really make it as a MP nation (if we are aiming for MP balance here). There is all sorts of rage going about boosting Tir'na'Og that has sort of similiar power curve. If the nation works too much by "+early power -late power" principle, it will eat up 1/2 nations by turn 40 and then get simply obliterated by something that can do something in the late game. That really won't be fun for the nations that get overwhelmed by the nation's early power nor will it be fun to watch your empire crumble to dust.

You also seem to have a lot of national pretenders. IMHO, it's a bit of a waste to have more than 1 or 2 national pretenders. Players are only going to use one (most likely the most powerful one), even if that, so the rest of them are sort of "wasted". I think that the four gods could be unique summons to give something to aim for in the late game.

Also the randoms on the mages seem really unnecessarily chaotic to me. It would be absolute infuriating, for example, to recruit ~5 Priestess of Gengri and not get single A3. It would be just as unbalanced to get 5 A4's in the row. Sure, the odds for those are unlikely, but are they really so necessary as to justify for those games simply spoiled because you just couldn't hit those randoms you needed. You could easily combine 70% X/Y + 30% X + 30% Y into one 100% X/Y random.

Also, you have a lot of commanders. To tell you the truth, opening the recruitment screen was sort of overwhelming. The thing with having many commanders is that (sort of like with national pretenders) is that the players are only going to use the ~3 most powerful ones, because commander slots are really tight. Especially true for mages as diverse as in this nation. My suggestion would be the same as for the pretender. Make the excess into summons. I'm not sure if it fits with your idea for the nation, but perhaps the servants could summon the priests/priestess's of their relative faiths?

Do not take offence by any of this, the idea and the theme are really cool. And this focus on Horse Archers is really unexplored territory for Dom3. All the pieces are there, it just needs some polishing. (I've been itching for a mongol nation to dom3 ever since I got my *** handed to my by them in Medieval: Total War)
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