[Baalz]

My goodness there's some bad attitudes in this thread. The constraints placed on overlords (before they were lifted) *strongly* encouraged developing a good relationship with a normal you could trust and to me seemed to work out into a dynamic team game so I can't believe its such a shock to be playing for a team victory. I very much assumed all the overlords were doing the same thing - I don't see how you could have any prayer of winning even a single war otherwise based on the original constraints. The non-binding, backstabbing encouraged diplomacy of this game means publicly declaring who you're working with would be beyond retarded as you go through the game trying to play each player off against one another. I had similar agreements with 3 different normals...and for all I know they were talking to other overlords! As the game progressed Vanheim emerged as the one I was actually going to go with and we entered a long period of wondering how much we could actually trust each other, but eventually came to a watershed moment when the backstabbing would happen if it was going to and came through it with a good mutual trust.

If you think there is any chance of stopping the both of us working together from eventually conquering the entire world (I disagree), then don't concede. This is Ling's position, but he seems to be alone in that.

If you're withholding the concession based on the hope that you could throw the game to one of us by slowing down the other....read to the words I'm typing. Vanheim and I are both in agreement that we want the game to end right now because there is no challenge in slowly and meticulously crushing everyone in lopsided fights. If there is no chance of stopping both of us, then one of us is without of doubt going to be in control of the map and in a position to dictate exactly when and how victory conditions are satisfied even if it takes an arbitrary amount of turns to set up. This would be tedious beyond endurance to actually have to do though.

As to your disparagement to my character Namad, use your head for just a second before you start talking. Do you honestly think there is the remotest chance that if I were lying about this that Lupus would not call me out himself? Obviously I discussed it with him before I posted, but even if you hold some absurd theory as to my complete untrustworthiness at least give me the tiniest amount of credit that I wouldn't so publicly lie in a manner guaranteed to immediately be shown false.