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Originally Posted by Imp
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But the real question is...
Just what sort Chinese force will make the scenario challenging?
So if you want to come up with a set of Chinese forces for this I'd be overjoyed to play!
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The Chinese have recently spent a lot on landing ships etc & their marines so perhaps marine vs marine. Chinese Marines from memory have an AFV similar to BMP-3 & a Amphib light tank based on it, obviously as Marines most would not have the aformentioned. While not in the game also believe they have an amphib version of SPSAM AA gun combo though for what you suggest probably still mainly MANPADS for AAA. Also seem to remember they have several light tanks APCs IFVs to choose from for follow on force. Also have a good range of light mortars etc till main arty can be landed. Biggest failing is probably air there EW suites are not very good on the whole & AAA overall lags behind the main players so USMC could have a bit of fun if area stuff is not in place. |
I think we can assume land-based USAF from Japan and Okinawa plus the US carrier task group that WOULD be covering the USMC landing will pretty well nullify any Chinese air threat, so I think we can limit Chinese air to say 2 "flights" of 4-6 (whatever size the typical Chinese "flight" is) strike (i.e. not first-line) aircraft. One "flight" available for the initial Chinese attack, the second say turn 25-30ish OR possibility 10ish with say a 10-20% chance to arrive per turn so a player will have to choose to wait for them all or use them piecemeal. The USMC will have only the 6 aircraft normally inherent to a MEU. Given that Marine Air are VTOL and a MEU has the assets to refuel/rearm make 6 aircraft available turn 1, 4 on turn 30, 2 on turn 60 representing rearmed aircraft.
As to Chinese artillery, I think we can assume their initial attack brought in artillery, armor, etc...just limited numbers. The Chinese are not stupid, so their initial landing would be heavy on logistics, knowing that resupply will be difficult after the initial assault. But some first-rate heavier stuff would be included in the first assault.
LOTS of Chinese area SAMs, brought in on the initial assault to counter US air. These SAMs are the main USMC objective in the Chinese rear, but will NOT have any missiles for the sake of the scenario. The Chinese don't want to "waste" area SAMs on tactical air strikes, their lighter stuff can deal with it!
Other thoughts?
Don/Andy...could you maybe move the last couple posts between me and Imp to the PBEM forum?
Thanks!