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Originally Posted by Maerlande
But Chris,
You aren't being suckered by the rhetoric are you? You understand my point that whatever the material the energy input is a human being. And I totally agree with you on the training of Yeomen. It's pretty famous. Which goes back to the original debate. Longbows were getting the shaft as far as I'm concerned. They are incredible weapons but do need training.
But of course if you want to submit fact you will be required to find those references  I promise to read them.
And really, you can't say this
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But the facts are that in medieval ages, in england for example, yeoman were required to spend a day a week in archery training.
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without references. Because how do we know those are facts?
I'd love to see those penetration tests. I did some digging but best I could find were British naval round tests. Not irrelevant but the energies involved are orders of magnitude higher. |
Both longbows and crossbows are getting the shaft as far as I'm concerned for reasons of making a game. Happens in a lot of systems - why play a swordsmen when an archer kills you dead ...
The in game deviation way exceeds anything reasonable. As a rule of thumb I'd estimate left right deviaition to be no more than 5% of the distance, with an expert marksmen. In game turns, I might say 5% * (5-Experience).
As I said, I dont' recall the name of the book, but a simple google of medievel arrow penetration yields a few links
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/longbow.htm
Which notes that an arrow could penetrate 4" of solid oak.
At 200 meters, it penetrated 1", at 100 meters it could penetrate plate armor.
the following site
http://www.thebeckoning.com/medieval...oss_l_v_c.html
has excellent statistics that the muzzle velocities of the crossbows and the arrows were very similiar. 133 vs 138 fps.
He claims that the 'most powerful' crossbows could penetrate plate at 200 meters.
He notes that the efficiency of the crossbow was nowhere near that of the longbow, as the tips of the lathes did not have sufficient time to move.
By the late medieval period (15th century) crossbows had exceeded longbows in penetration power.