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Old June 6th, 2010, 10:38 PM
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Default Re: Noobs and Vets II: Days of Infamy. MA, BI. In Progress.

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And obviously Gorgon is no longer as good in CBM
Could resist when saw this... Yeah, nerfing is the point of "balancing" - things which are good and powerful are called imba, then nerfed then become worthless and then another "imba" is found. This process is endless - cutting off the functionality instead of adding new one. This is a well known way of "balancing", already seen in many games which generally leads nowhere. In the end you will have 2 equal troops and 2 equal commanders - an ideally balanced game.
Have you even looked at CBM's pretenders?

Options which were too powerful got reigned in. They had to be. You couldn't boost every other option up to their level.

But options which were too weak got boosted, sometimes substantially. They were made cheaper, given more magic, and sometimes new abilities.

The point is to make every pretender an equally good buy. Now, a given nation is going to prefer a certain set of pretenders, but that's based purely on the exigencies of the nation, not the cost of the pretender. (ie, situation creates preferences, not poor pricing).

You (and Gandalf) seem to not know what you're talking about when you refer to chess style balancing with regards to CBM. CBM has done more boosting than nerfing overall, including to pretenders. But sometimes a pretender is so far out of line that it needs to be nerfed back to reasonableness. Gorgon was one such. But to say that all CBM does is nerf is to ignore improvements to chasses like the rainbows and dozens of others. The very briefest inspection would quickly disprove that CBM has made all pretenders the same.

It wasn't that Gorgon was "good and powerful", it was *too good* for the points. Its still just as powerful, its now also costed appropriately. It was the only pretender which let you take a major bless on an awake Dom 9 SC and not tank your scales. Basically, you should get what you pay for, nothing more and nothing less. I for one vastly prefer a situation where there are multiple good options to choose from, not one option that is so obviously the best one as to make the others meaningless.

Alternately, maybe you'd care to explain what you'd do to improve other pretender options to be as good a deal as Gorgon. Say, frost father.
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