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Originally Posted by 13lackGu4rd
Finalgenesis, if only all the information you presented was correct, truthful and objective than I would have laid it to rest. however you didn't even make an attempt to try, you simple chose to present the weaknesses of your UW position without any of its strengths, and in return asked for more land players so we'll be on more "even grounds". this statement is pure propaganda and is the main reason I started bursting your bubble. moreover, pregame diplomacy is perhaps the lowest you can go as far as propaganda spreading goes, we didn't even start for crying out loud!
now, since you insist, I'll give you some of your UW position's strengths, in your face, as counter propaganda. so, here we go:
1. free forts via pretty common nature sites UW, which both MA Oceania and R'lyeh can search right from the start.
2. Voice of Tiamat is the best remote site searching spell in the game!
3. once(if) the death match is over it's hard for any land nation to really contest the oceans due to your obvious superiority in UW battles and focused research(for the death match), while land nations focus their research elsewhere.
4. killing 1 opponent(your UW neighbor) makes your position so much stronger than a land nation killing even 2-3 of his neighbors(in the early game that is).
5. your ability to harass land powers is much greater than the land power's ability to harass you UW.
I hope this is enough for now, I could dig up more, and nation specific too, if you insist. now with your propaganda and my counter propaganda to you, everyone should be able to see the real picture and I expect people to know the UW's nations strengths and weaknesses even before all this mess...
now, lets see how many players we'll have playing, and what mods we'll use if any(CBM, EGD, vanilla), the sooner we know this information the sooner we can all start testing our pretender choices until we find the pretender we're happy with, so we can finally get this game going. now lets stop with all this pregame bull**** and wait for the game to actually start!
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Well, I must apologize that my analysis was not "correct, truthful and objective" to your brand of truth. I did thought it was a honest summation on the predicaments I face, I didn't quite expect a full comprehensive laundry list breakdown of the pros and cons to be required. Do people really want me to spell out that MA R'yleth can do mind-hunts, have stealth astral mage assassins, that water provinces tend to have easier indies ...etc? If you would like, I certainly wouldn't mind you filling in the whole Objective truths for me, after all, you are perfectly objective and incapable of pure propaganda if I'm reading you right.
In the context of counter-propaganda I'd take it like a champ, but your implication of that I was "dirty" and "low" outside of the context of the game just made me laugh. For the sake of civility I won't quote any hypocrisy I spotted unless, of course, you insist.
Hmmm well... you may certainly drop your pregame bullpoop if you like, I don't mind. I would object to you enforcing your special brand of saintly justice on me though. In fact, just let me enjoy my "bullpoop" with other willing participants instead of picking it up and smearing yourself with it. You know, it'll make you dirty, why subject yourself to it?
Well it's gotten to that point

, I think we can agree we have divergent opinions on the issue and abandon further discourse on this matter, it is obvious neither of use will change our mind and further discussions would be... counter-productive.