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Originally Posted by LDiCesare
Vanheim and Helheim can make use of both blood and thugs. By removing access to both, you take out two of their tools to win. I wouldn't call either strong, but they could definitely compete with other nations without the nerf. I don't think they can without. So imo they move from competitive to loser status in CBM 1.7. On the other hand, Agartha or Eriu weren't competitive anyway but that's not a reason to make them worse.
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With the removal of hammers and rods they can still thug and blood hunt. The issue is quantity, and it's not just the mid/weak nations that are affected but all.
For me mad skills in this game does not equate to being able to make 100s of clams/hammers/rods for the win. And if anything those items restrict gameplay more than open things up as everyone is racing for the same thing.
Example,
If I have earth mages I make hammers. If my nation doesn't have earth well I'll put earth on my pretender to make hammers. I never choose to go without some way to make hammers and always laugh when someone asks to trade for hammers. Now I ask why do I do this? Why to be competitive! Because if everyone else has hammers and I don't well they've got a leg up on me. Take away hammers and all of a sudden the above situation no longer applies atleast for me.
I view hammers/rods/etc much like tarts and how endgame is dominated by D and S (wish) nations. LB has since made EDM (ty!) and all of a sudden more choices! Yay! Choice is good!
I view these changes by QM as the same. And now there's word that QM will be buffing nations, also good. I can't wait for the next CBM update.