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B Bill, this also should include, even if you don't have a treaty, one/more ships come into your system, you attack and destroy their shp, they don't immediatley/shortly declare war on you, I've had games where I kept destroying their ships but it took forever to get them to declare war. I would think if you attack and destroy their ships, this should trigger something other then eventual change in their attitude....

What about the Diplomatic Mega Evil Trigger??

just some ideas mac