Great discussion here!!
Go to CBS.com to the CBS Evening News (11 JAN. 2011) link for the story on SECDEF Gates meeting in China over defense issues. China decided to take the J-20 for a ride today while he was there sending a political message of their own. They made a comparison of the F-22 to the J-20, imagine that!?! It's all in the eye of the beholder I guess.
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...969/#more-4969
Another piece of the puzzle to the lineage of the PAK FA. Also note "The China factor" and March 16/10 section which is only part of the picture in Russian modernization and procurement over the next ten years, T-95 MBT anyone? We'll see.
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Article I left off from Post #1 on PAK FA.
http://www.military-today.com/aircra...hoi_pak_fa.htm
Links plane lineage to PAK FA.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...sia/pak-fa.htm
Supports 2015 - 2017 start of production.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...fa-program.htm
Very technical read I was thankful for some "signal training" but very through with a little bias.
http://www.warfare.ru/?catid=255&linkid=2280
Sets up the situation and DETAILS the factors involved. This from a very respected aerospace think tank.
http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-NOTAM-300309-1.html
http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-NOTAM-300310-1.html
I consider fighters in
VERY BASIC terms like radar detectors for cars, as fast they are marketed, the police have counter measures, the new model comes out, the police have... and on it goes. Tanks are easier, (Hey maybe I'm sending a message of my own. Nay...not me!?!) much easier.
Regards,
Pat